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Orlando

Orlando is a large city located in Orange County, Florida.

Orlando, for most people conjures up the image of theme parks, mainly Disney World, but it has a lot more to offer than that. In fact, Disney is not in Orlando, but is in nearby Lake Buena Vista. Make sure that you don't miss downtown Orlando.

Other cities in the metropolitan area include Altamonte Springs, Davenport, Kissimmee, and Winter Park.

Culture and History

When people think of Orlando, most think of theme parks and urban sprawl. However, Orlando proper includes none of the major theme parks (Disney World, Universal Studios, Sea World), dinner attractions (Arabian Nights, Medieval Times), or even most small theme parks(Gatorland, Holyland Experience, Ripley's Believe-it-or-not, etc). While Wikitravel guidelines suggest that this article should pertain only to Orlando proper, the fact that numerous attractions, shopping, and hotels lie in a wide range of suburbs, and even unincorporated areas make doing so difficult.

Therefore, this article pertains to all those attractions, shopping, food, and hotels in Orlando EXCEPT FOR Kissimmee, Altamonte Springs, Winter Park, Lake Buena Vista/Walt Disney World Resort. This may change in the future, if Wikitravellers decide to create a "Greater Orlando" article.

When to Come

Most tourists visit Orlando between June-August, while another peak time for tourism is March & April. With the number of tourists, 52 million, far outnumbering the regional population, around 2 million, the best times to visit are when there are fewer tourists. Ironically, the less busy times for tourism correspond to the best weather in the Orlando area. So not only will theme parks and malls be less crowded, but you will be able to enjoy great weather.

Many say central Florida has two seasons: hot and hotter. Orlando has warm, balmy springs and autumns; hot summers complete with daily thunderstorms; and temperate winters affected by the occasional cold front. That being said:

• Spring in Orlando has highs in the 80s in May & April transitioning to around 90 in May and low-mid 90s in June. Spring is the driest time of year here, and in the past decade some spring months have seen less than an inch of rain! This is the time of year in which many small wildfires appear around the region, but this should not bother anyone who stays within the urban area. March and April are great times to visit with dry days, clear skies, and warm temperatures (and no cold fronts). However, late May and early June are arguably the worst time to visit filled with hot, humid, dry days.

• Summer begins with the start of daily thunderstorms around mid-June. Highs from mid-June to mid-September are in the mid 90s, with 90º often being reached by 10-11am, and lows in the 70s. Due to Orlando's proximity to two coasts, thunderstorms form everyday during this period from ocean breezes which heat over land, rise, and cool in the atmosphere to create sometimes violent thunderstorms (see the "Stay Safe" section). However, they often will drop temperatures into the low 80s after passing...a welcome relief from the hot temperatures earlier.
• Autumn varies much more from year to year than spring. The daily thunderstorms taper off in September leaving highs in the mid-high 80s until mid-October. The first cold front of the season will usually pass between mid and late October, plunging highs into the 70s and lows into the 50s and high 40s. The cooling trend continues into November and December, with highs falling into the 70s by late December and lows into the 50s, affected only by the occasional cold front which can plunge highs into the 60s (Nov) and 50s(Dec) and lows into the 40s(Nov) and as low as freezing (32ºF/0ºC) by mid December.
• Winter is much the same as November and December. Highs are in the 70s, lows in the 50s, affected every week or two by cold fronts. Following a cold front, highs can drop into the 50s, lows into the 30s.

History

Orlando can be traced back to 1837, when soldiers heading to fight

Travel to Orlando & Visa Requirements

Flights and airtickets to Orlando

Commercial Aviation

Most arrive by commercial air arrive via Orlando International Airport (IATA: MCO) [1], abbreviated OIA, which is Orlando's primary airport. The airport is located to the southeast of downtown Orlando, but centrally located with respect to the region and area attractions. Orlando International Airport is a secondary hub for AirTran Airways, Southwest Airlines, & Jet Blue Airways which all fly numerous routes to/from Orlando. Furthermore, Delta Airlines offers 8 flights daily (October 2008) between Orlando and their largest hub in Atlanta, the world's busiest airport and from which Delta serves well over a hundred domestic and international destinations. Lufthansa flies 6 times per week to Frankfurt, a major European hub, while Aer Lingus operates direct flights to Dublin, offering a budget aifare between Orlando and Europe. In addition to direct flights with almost every major US city, OIA serves over a dozen Canadian destinations (many seasonal), Jamaica(Montego Bay), the Bahamas(Nassau), Mexico(Cancun, Mexico City), Panama(Panama City), Germany(Frankfurt), Ireland(Dublin), Brazil(Sao Paulo, begin Dec 08), and the United Kingdom (London-Gatwick, Manchester, Glasgow). If you plan on visiting more than just Orlando and plan on taking international flights, you may want to consider flying via Miami International Airport, a 200mi (320km) and a 2-3hr drive south of Orlando, which offers many times more international flights and is the main US gateway for flights to South/Central America & the Caribbean.

The airport is structured such that there is a central "terminal" containing airline counters, baggage claim, rental agencies, numerous shops, & a hotel which is connected via trams to 4 other terminals (known as "Airside 1-4"). There are plenty of shops in both the central terminal and the airsides, but most restaurants are located in the airsides. Security screening is performed before taking the tram to the airsides and, as in all US airports, only ticketed passengers are allowed past security. Security lines can become extremely long (1 hour) during the summer tourist season and near holidays, combined with long check-in lines it is advisable to arrive 2-3 hours before your scheduled departure. Almost every medium to high priced hotel in the city offers transfers. Orlando is the rental car capital of the world and as such there are several car rental agencies offering a wide range of vehicles for rental.

A secondary airport which serves the Orlando area is the Orlando-Sanford International Airport (IATA: SFB) [2] located in Sanford, a city just to the north of Orlando, the side of Orlando opposite most attractions. However, it offers more European flights than Orlando International, especially from the UK. Service between Orlando Sanford International and Europe includes: First Choice Airways (Bristol, East Midlands, Glasgow, London-Gatwick, Manchester); Monarch Airlines (Belfast, Cardiff, Dublin, Glasgow, London-Gatwick, Manchester, Newcastle, Shannon); Thomas Cook Airlines (Belfast, Glasgow, London-Gatwick, Manchester); Thomsonfly (Birmingham, London-Gatwick, Manchester, Newcastle); Flyglobespan (Belfast, Glasgow); Icelandair (Reykjavik). Orlando Sanford International is also a hub for Allegiant Air which serves a lot of small US cities.

Other regional airports (within an hour and a half drive) include: Daytona Beach International Airport (sevrved by Delta via Atlanta and US Airways via Charlotte) & Melbourne International Airport(served by Delta via Atlanta and Baer Air via Freeport, Bahamas). In addition, Orlando area visitors who plan on visiting the Gulf Coast may consider flying into Tampa International Airport, about 80 miles (130km) west of Orlando or just over an hour's drive, as it is less crowded and a bit easier to access via road.

General Aviation

All persons flying via general aviation should consider arriving via Orlando Executive Airport which is six miles east of downtown and about 10 or so miles north of Orlando International Airport. Orlando Executive serves general aviation (95%) and air taxi (5%) exclusively. Additionally, Orlando Sanford International serves general aviation alongside its commercial use.

By train

Orlando has an Amtrak [3] station that provides service to other destinations such as Miami, but also connects to other points as far north as New York via the Silver Star and Silver Meteor lines.

In nearby Sanford, the southern terminus of the Amtrak Auto Train which carries passengers and automobiles between Sanford and Lorton, Virginia, effectively serving as a car-rail link from Orlando to the Washington, D.C. Metro Area.

Buses to Orlando

*Greyhound, 555 North John Young Parkway, [4]. Visitors arriving by Greyhound can go south on SR 423 to Interstate 4 to get to the major Attractions.

Shuttle Services

There are several shuttle services options that run from the airport to various points, including Kissimmee, theme parks, University of Central Florida, and the cruise port at Port Canaveral.

• Mears Transportation Group, 407-422-2222, [5].
• Disney's Magical Express, 407-W-DISNEY, [6] — Complimentary shuttle and luggage delivery service for guests stay at a Walt Disney World Resort hotel. Advance reservations are required.

Tours & Getting around Orlando

By car

The car is still king in Orlando, and it is a very easy and convenient (if not congested) way to get to your destination. Orlando is a sprawling city with most attractions lying far to the south of the CBD and into adjacent cities like Kissimmee and Lake Buena Vista (this section include those areas). The roads are all wide and easy to drive on with all major attractions well signed, but traffic jams around downtown are common in the afternoons, and around the touristy areas on Friday nights and all day Saturday. Orlando ranks 8th in the nation in terms of traffic congestion, and there are numerous ongoing construction projects on area expressways (all aimed at alleviating this, but only causing congestion in the meanwhile). Traffic information is available from new Dynamic Message Signs, most local radio stations, and also by calling 511 (a free, automated service which provides current traffic info collected from hundreds of traffic cameras as well as police reports)

Orlando is the largest rental car market in the world and is known as capital of car rental companies, with all major car rental companies easily accessible from inside the airport. If you arrive by air via Orlando International Airport and get a rental car, go to the North Exit and head to SR 528 West to get to International Drive, Universal Orlando and SeaWorld. This will require $0.75 in tolls. A short-cut to Walt Disney World is the South Exit to SR 417 South, following it to Exit 5, and taking SR 536 straight into Disney. This requires $2 in tolls. Toll booths along this expressway uses open road tolling: see note below.

The main highway through Orlando, and the only interstate serving it, is Interstate 4 (referred to as "I-4", running NE-SW). In recent years major construction on it has widened it through areas south of SR528 making it a well signed and commuter-friendly highway (except for traffic during rush hours and Friday and Saturday evenings). Downtown Orlando; International Drive; Amway Arena; the Mall at Millenia; Arabian Nights dinner theater; and theme parks such as Walt Disney World, Universal Studios, Sea World, Discovery Cove, the Holy Land Experience, and Wet n' Wild are all conveniently located along/near I-4.

Other major highways include SR528, the Beach Line Expressway although known until recently as the Bee Line, which runs east from I-4 (exit 72) towards the Space Coast beaches and Kennedy Space Center, Cocoa beach, and Port Canaveral. SR528 is, like all Orlando area expressways (not including I-4), a toll road. While tolls are modest for short trips within Orlando, tolls can quickly add on long cross-town trips (bypassing Orlando on SR418 is $5.50 for 55 miles). See this convenient toll calculator: [8].

In Orlando, the main tourism area is International Drive, a strip of road that runs parallel to I-4 for about 10 miles. Many tourist-focused shops, restaurants, and attractions are to be found along this road; therefore, it is excruciatingly hard to drive on and find parking along this road on weekends, especially in the summer, and excursions to this area are best by bus during such times. Other major roads include: US 192 in Kissimmee(fronted by thousands of small shops and attractions), Orange Blossom Trail (US 92/441...a North-South alternative to I-4), SR50 (E-W route towards the CBD).

By Car Rentals

Located in terminal at the Orlando International Airport:

• Alamo, [9].
• Avis, [10].
• Dollar Car Rental.
• E-Z Rent-A-Car, 800-277-5171, [11].
• L&M Car Rental, [12].
• National Car Rental, [13].
• Thrifty Car Rental.

By bus

Orlando's public transportation is the Lynx bus service. Approximately 60 routes serve the metro Orlando area and costs $1.75 per ride (transfers included) except for the free Lymmo bus service as noted below. Check out Go Lynx [14] for routes and fares.

By trolley

*I-Ride Trolley, +1 407-248-9590, [15]. Along International and Universal Drive, this primarily serves tourists in the attractions area. While the service is advertised as a trolley, the trolleys are in fact modified buses and there is no dedicated traffic lane for the service; heavy traffic with many stops makes for a very slow ride. There are 85 stops along the main route on International Drive and 22 stops on the route that serves Universal Drive. The fare is $1 per ride. Per-day and multi-day bus passes are available from many locations.

By limo/shuttle service

*Lymmo Bus, 1-841-LYNX. This free service operates frequently in a circuit in Downtown Orlando, from City Hall to the Centroplex and back. The Lymmo has a dedicated lane and stations with streetcar type control signals and modified buses that allow passengers to enter the bus without climbing. M-Th 6AM-10PM, F 6AM-12AM, Sa 10AM-12AM, Su 10AM-10PM.

*Orlando Limo Service, [16] — Orlando Airport Shuttle & Earth Friendly Transportation to & from Disney World! Make your next connection an eco-friendly one! Orlando's 1st Car Service Company to "go Green." Experience the latest advances in transportation and ride in a car on the technological edge. You can make a difference! Remember the contribution you will make riding with Linc's Transportation: Gives you the satisfaction of knowing that your family, kids and their future will be happier and healthier. Expands our ability to provide up to date transportation to more caring citizens while improving the air quality in the State of Florida, raises public awareness on how individuals have the ability to make a difference, educates decision makers about impacts energy use has on the environment and public health, and notifies citizens with accurate information to counter rhetoric from polluters. You can make it happen!

By taxi

*Orlando Cab Co. in Disney Area 407-575-7757 [17]

• Ace Metro / Luxury Cab, +1 407-855-1111.
• Diamond Cab Company, +1 407-523-3333.
• Green Taxi Earth Friendly Cab, +1 321-217-1655, [18].
• Linc's Transportation Cab, +1 321-689-4777, [19].
• Star Taxi, +1 407-857-9999.
• Town & Country Transportation, +1 407-828-3035.
• TravelLinc / Green Cab, +1 321-217-1655, [20].
• Yellow / City Cab, +1 407-699-9999.</p>

Orlando attractions and sightseeing

The Go Orlando Card [21] is very useful here.

Gardens & Parks

• Arboretum of the University of Central Florida — An arboretum and botanical garden covering 80 acres (32 hectares), it contains more than 600 species of plants, including more than 100 bromeliads, in cultivated gardens. Its cultivated areas currently include a Conservatory Compound, a Bromeliad Sanctuary, Cycad Garden, Fern Garden, Palm Collection, Rose Garden, Swamp Habitat, and Wetland Plants Display.
• Harry P. Leu Gardens, 1920 N Forest Ave, +1 407-246-2620, [22]. Daily 9AM-5PM except Christmas Day. Beautiful landscaped gardens and lakes set in nearly 50 acres of land, featuring flora gathered from around the globe since 1936 including the largest rose garden in Florida and America's largest Camellia collection outside of California. Leu House, Harry P. Leu's former home set within the grounds and dating back to the 1880's, has tours every 30 minutes around its museum illustrating Florida living at the turn of the 20th century (closed during July). You can get married in various places in the gardens and there are special events held throughout the year. $5 (free every Monday 9AM-noon).
• World of Orchids — Featuring thousands of blooms in an enclosed tropical rain forest. World of Orchids is a working greenhouse shipping orchids and other plants nationwide. A greenhouse covers nearly an acre (4,000 m²), and in this controlled climate of warm, humid air some 1,000 orchids are displayed in a natural jungle setting, with streams, waterfalls, and squawking parrots. World of Orchids also has a 1,000 foot (300 m) long boardwalk meandering off into nearby wetlands. Admission is free.

Museums

• Charles Hosmer Morse Museum of American Art — houses the world's most comprehensive collection of the works of Louis Comfort Tiffany (1848-1933) including Tiffany art glass, leaded-glass windows, lamps, jewelry, pottery, paintings, and the chapel interior he designed for the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago. The Museum's holdings include a major collection of American art pottery and representative collections of late-nineteenth and early-twentieth century American paintings, graphics, and decorative arts.
• Cornell Fine Arts Museum — Rollins College. Features items from Cornell's renowned permanent collection. Admission is free.
• The Orlando Museum of Art — Ongoing exhibitions of American portraits and landscapes, American impressionist works, and art of the ancient Americas.
• The Orlando Science Center — A 207,000 square foot (19,000 m²) hands-on learning center with hundreds of interactive exhibits for visitors of all ages. Images surround visitors on the giant screen of the Dr. Phillips CineDome. Other attractions include the Body Zone, teaching health and fitness, as well as an observatory. The center has the largest refracting telescope in Florida.
• The Orange County Regional History Center — Features exhibits and artifacts from the earliest days of the region to the modern day. Includes information on everything from the time of the Seminole Indians to the founding of the city to the Civil Rights era to the Disney period to today.
• International Trolley and Train Museum — Features 14 model railroad trains with sound and lighting traveling through an indoor garden with 12 foot (4 m) high mountains, waterfalls, and more than 30 trestles and tunnels. Also on display are toy trains from the 1920s to the present. Visitors can catch a ride in a California Victorian-style half open/half closed trolley or the 5/8-scale replica of an 1880 locomotive (a Mason Bogey) with its passenger cars.
• The Holy Land Experience — This evangelical Christian-owned, biblical theme park also has museum exhibits.
• Ripley's Believe It or Not! Orlando Odditorium — 8201 International Drive, +1 407 363-4418, [23]. Located in a building artfully constructed to appear as if it were collapsing to one side. Visitors can explore bizarre artifacts, strange collections, weird art/hobbies (for example, check out the 3/4-scale model of a 1907 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost automobile made entirely of matchsticks and glue), and interactive exhibits in sixteen odd galleries. Seriously schlocky, yet fun.

Sports Teams

* Orlando Magic (NBA).

• Orlando Predators (AFL).
  
• Orlando Sharks (MISL).
  
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Orlando city tours

Major Attractions

Orlando is one of the biggest tourist destinations because of the nearby theme parks and resorts. Close to International Drive is Universal Orlando Resort, which includes two theme parks, three hotels and a large shopping district. SeaWorld Orlando is a marine theme park featuring Kraken, the biggest rollercoaster in the Orlando area, as well as Believe, the all-new Shamu adventure. About 40 minutes outside of Orlando is the well-known Walt Disney World. Comprised of four theme parks, two water parks, dozens of hotels, three shopping and dining districts, eight golf courses and much more, it is the largest privately managed tourist destination on the planet. Not far from Disney World lies the Alligator Capital of the World: Gatorland. Also, don't forget about water park Wet 'N Wild, located right on International Drive.

• Disney World — The world famous attraction is actually located 35 miles south of downtown Orlando, in a city called Lake Buena Vista. Hours vary by park and season. [24]
• Universal Orlando Resort, International Drive, +1 407-363-8000. 9AM-(closing times vary from 6PM-10PM). Discounts are given for purchasing tickets online. [25]
• SeaWorld Adventure Park Orlando, SeaWorld Drive, +1 407-351-3600, 1-800-327-2424. 9AM-(closing times vary from 6PM-10PM). [26]
• Aquatica., 5800 Water Play Way. A recently-opened water park by Sea World. Hours vary by season. [27]
• Holy Land. 4655 Vineland Road. An educational, inspirational, biblical-themed park designed to look like Jerusalem. $5 discount on tickets purchased online. [28]
• Gatorland, 14501 South Orange Blossom Trail. A small alligator and reptile themed park. Open 9-5 year round. +1 407-855-5496, 1-800-393-JAWS, [29].
• Wet 'N Wild, 6200 International Drive. Waterpark. Hours vary by season. +1 407-351-1800, 1-800-992-WILD, [30].
• Discovery Cove, 6000 Discovery Cove Way. A unique companion to Sea World, it is often sold out, admission is limited to 1000 guests per day but admission does include all your equipment, food, drink and 30 minutes interaction with the dolphins in the water. $259-279 ($159-179 for non-dolphin package). Open 9AM-5:30PM (open until 9PM on selected evenings). +1 407-370-1280, [31].

Minor Attractions

• Mary, Queen of the Universe Shrine, 8300 Vineland Avenue, +1 407-239-6600, [32]. This extravagant Catholic church has become a tourist attraction in itself, thanks in part to the millions of Catholics from around the world who visit it and the rest of Orlando every year. Note: It is not a parish, therefore it cannot perform weddings, funerals, or baptisms.

Downtown

Despite the proximity of theme park haven Lake Buena Vista, the city has a lot to offer on its own. Downtown Orlando [33] is a growing area centered around Orange Avenue that is packed with bars, clubs, and restaurants, as well as theaters and concert venues. The main strip on Orange Avenue is closed most nights because of the large volumes of pedestrians. Just a few blocks over is Lake Eola [34], a picturesque park situated around a swan-filled lake. In the middle of the lake is a lighted fountain that has been established as an icon of Orlando, and on one side of the lake stands the historic outdoor shell theater, where tourists and locals alike can see a version of the Nutcracker every year in December. Swan-shaped paddle boats are available for rental as well. Taking over for Church Street as the main night time hot spot is Wall Street. It is a small pedestrian only alley off of Orange Avenue that houses several restaurants and bars. They also have frequent concerts on Wall Street, they set up staging for bands to play for everything from Cinco de Mayo to the Capital One Bowl celebration week.

Golf

• Bay Hill Club & Lodge, 9000 Bay Hill Blvd, (407) 876-2429. Two courses: 18 holes, over 7,205 yards with a par of 72 (Private Non-Equity); 9 holes, over 3,409 yards with a par of 36 (Private Non-Equity).
• Boggy Creek Golf Club, 3650 8th St, (407) 857-0280. 9 holes, over 3,250 yards with a par of 36 (Public).
• Country Club of Orlando, 1601 Country Club Dr, (407) 425-2319. 18 holes, over 6,591 yards with a par of 72 (Private Equity).
• Cypress Creek Country Club, 5353 Vineland Rd, (407) 351-2187. 18 holes, over 7,014 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Dubsdread Golf Course, 549 West Par St, +1 407-246-2551. 18 holes, over 6,055 yards with a par of 72 (Municipal).
• Eaglewood Golf Club, 5800 Pga Blvd, (407) 351-5121. 18 holes, over 2,516 yards with a par of 58 (Public).
• EastWood Golf Club, 13950 Golfway Blvd, (407) 281-4653. 18 holes, over 7,176 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Fairways Country Club, 14205 E Colonial Dr, (407) 282-7535. 18 holes, over 5,332 yards with a par of 70 (Public).
• Faldo Golf Institute By Marriott, 12001 Avenida Verde, (888) 463-2536. 9 holes, over 2,308 yards with a par of 32 (Public).
• Ginn Reunion Golf Resort, 1000 Reunion Way, Reunion, +1 888-418-9611. 54 holes, 3 championship golf courses designed by Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus and Tom Watson (Private).
• Grand Cypress Resort, 1 N Jacaranda St, (800) 835-7377. Four courses: 18 holes over 6,773 yards with a par of 72 (Public); 9 holes over 3,462 yards with a par of 36 (Public); 9 holes over 3,521 yards with a par of 36 (Public); 9 holes over 3,434 yards with a par of 36 (Public).
• Grande Pines Golf Club, 6351 International Golf Club Rd, (800) 371-1165. 18 holes, over 7,012 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Lake Nona Golf Club, 9801 Lake Nona Rd, (407) 851-9091. 18 holes, over 7,011 yards with a par of 72 (Private Non-Equity).
• Lake Orlando Golf Club, 4224 Club House Rd, +1 407-298-1230. 18 holes, over 6,803 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• MetroWest Golf Club, 2100 S Hiawassee Rd, (407) 299-8800. 18 holes, over 7,051 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Orange Tree Golf Club, 7540 Woodgreen Dr, (407) 351-2521. 18 holes, over 6,968 yards with a par of 71 (Private Non-Equity).
• Rio Pinar Golf & Country Club, 8600 El Prado Ave, (407) 277-5121. 18 holes, over 6,929 yards with a par of 72 (Private Equity).
• Ritz Carlton Golf Club, 4048 Central Florida Pkwy, (407) 393-4900. 18 holes, over 7,122 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Shingle Creek Golf Club, 9939 Universal Blvd, (866) 996-9933. 18 holes, over 7,213 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Stoneybrook Golf Club, 2900 Northampton Ave, (407) 384-6888. 18 holes, over 6,820 yards with a par of 72 (Public).
• Ventura Country Club, 3333 Woodgate Blvd, (407) 277-2640. 18 holes, over 5,467 yards with a par of 70 (Public).

Tennis

• Orlando Tennis Center, 649 W Livingston St, (407) 246-2161.
• Lake Cane Tennis Center, 5108 Turkey Lake Rd, (407) 254-9170.
• Fort Gatlin Recreation Complex, 2009 Lake Margaret Dr, (407) 858-3290.

Venues

• Orange County Convention Center, 9860 Universal Blvd, (407) 685-1061, [35]. With 2.1 million-square feet of exhibition space, the Orange County Convention Center (OCCC) serves as the area's convention and meeting center.

Orlando souvenirs & shopping

Major malls

The Florida Mall, [36] — The biggest single-level mall in the US and the largest mall in Orlando located at the crossroads of Orange Blossom Trail and Sandlake Road, about a mile north of the Orange Blossom Trail/Florida Turnpike/Beachline Expressway interchange. Home to over 200 shops aincluding Saks Fifth Avenue, Macys, Dillards, Nordstrom, JC Penney, Sears, & Apple. You can go an entire day in this mall and still not finish. Popular among international tourist wishing to stock up on cheap American goods, but of better quality than found at the many outlet malls/stores.

The Mall at Millenia, [37] — This is Orlando's most upscale and beautiful mall. Find everything from Tiffany's to Hugo Boss and Gucci. Also home to upscale department stores like Macy's, Bloomingdales and Neiman Marcus. This also features Apple and Sony Style selling computers and related products. This mall is part of the very new and trendy Millenia area of Orlando. Located conveniently on the Conroy Road exit off of I-4 a few miles south of Downtown.

Orlando Fashion Square, [38] — Located on east Colonial Drive just north of downtown.

Outlet malls

Orlando Premium Outlets, [39] — Home to the biggest designers such as Armani, Fendi, Burberry, Ferragamo, Lacoste, Coach. Also home to Tommy Hilfiger, Nike, Polo, Nautica and many more. Located off of 535 and visible from I-4 closest to the Disney World area. This is the best mall to pick up bargains from all the name brands and designer wear.

Prime Outlets International (formerly Beltz) — Home to many designers such as Polo, DKNY, Nike, Reebok, and Liz Claiborne. The mall is currently undergoing major renovation but the outside centers are still open and have the above stores.

Lake Buena Vista Factory Stores, [40] — Select from over 300 designer and name brands such as Gap, Reebok, Carters and Eddie Bauer. Stores offer factory direct, quality merchandise at savings up to 75%. Located off of SR 535 near International Drive and Disney.

Ethnic enclaves

*Little Saigon, Colonial Dr (just east of downtown). Here you will find about 100 stores that stock items from China, Vietnam, Hong Kong, etc. Also home to many Asian restaurants. The shops will mainly consist of Asian grocery stores and gift shops and a few herbal healing stores.

*Little India area — This area is a bit spread out. You will find many Indian stores in the South Orange Blossom Trail area on the main streets and side roads. Starting with Lancaster Road, which houses a video store and Indian restaurant, and then traveling south you will see a few Indian shops in clusters every mile all the way to 417 where you end at the local Indian movie theater.

Orlando Restaurants: cheap, moderate and expensive

• The Boheme Restaurant , 325 South Orange Ave, (in the Westin Grand Bohemian), +1 407-313-9000, [41].

• Bubbalou's Bodacious BBQ, [42]. There are three Bubbalou's locations in the Orlando area. Offers BBQ ribs, sandwiches and other smoked delights. Atmosphere has a home-style feel and plenty of pig companions.

• Calypso Bar and Grill, 6300 Parc Corniche Dr, [43]. Great menu with a Key West themed dining experience.

• CityWalk, [44] — Located at Universal Orlando, features a variety of restaurants such as Margaritaville, Hard Rock Cafe, Pastamore, NASCAR Cafe and much more. Parking is $10 during the day and free after 6PM (except during holidays or special events, such as Halloween Horror Nights).

• Downtown Disney Head to downtown Disney any night of the week for a wide range of restaurants of varying prices and flares. Some notable restaurants there include Rainforest Café & Ghiradelli Chocolate Factory.

• Gabriel's Subs, 2840 Curry Ford Rd. Excellent hot veggie subs.

• Garden Cafe, 810 W Colonial Dr, [45]. Fantastic vegetarian (mostly vegan) Chinese food.

• Garibaldi Mexican Restaurant, 929 N Semoran Blvd. The best dishes are: Chili Relleno and cheese enchilada.

• Ponderosa, [46] — An American steakhouse with a wide and varied buffet, from sausages to muffins all day. Great for those with a sweet tooth.

• Rolando's Cuban Restaurant, 870 Semoran Blvd, Casselberry. Serves excellent rice, yucca, eggplant, plantains, and guava.

• Rossi's Pizza, 5919 S Orange Blossom Trl, +1 407-855-5755. Located at the corner of Oak Ridge & Orange Blossom Trail. Highly recommend the 12 inch thin-crust pepperoni pizza.

• Stefano's Trattoria, 1425 Tuskawilla Rd(Intersection of Red Bug and Tuskawilla in Winter Springs), ☎ (407) 659-0101, [47]. Small, family-run, quiet (but still delicious) Italian/Sicilian restaurant five minutes out of Orlando. A local gem! (Best advice on dishes: Ask Stefano to personally make a recommendation, he walks around the restaurant and will tell you exactly what you want to eat!)$$.  edit

• Tony's Deli, 1323 N Mills Ave. Best dishes: fava bean salad, hommous, taboolie, baklava.

• Uncle Jones BBQ, 1370 E Altamonte Dr, Altamonte Spgs. Serving the best potatoes ever, along with, lima beans, BBQ pork, corn bread, fried okra, and Texas toast.

• Vito's Chop House, 8633 International Dr, +1 407-354-2467, [48]. Great cooking, great wine. $15-$30.

• Wingate Florida, 5750 Hazeltine National Drive(Orlando, FL), ☎ 800-228-1000, [49]. : Whether you’re traveling to Florida for business or pleasure, rest easy knowing there’s a Wingate by Wyndham Hotel conveniently located and well-equipped to accommodate your every need. edit

Splurge

• Khasiyat Indian Cuisine, 852 W. Lancaster Rd, +1 407-888-2147. Vegetarian/Indian cuisine.

• Norman's, 4000 Central Florida Pkwy, (at Ritz-Carlton Grande Lakes), +1 407-393-4333, [50]. Chef Norman Van Aken. Prix-fixe $55 and up.

Orlando nightlife, bars, clubs & pubs

Orlando nightlife away from the theme parks is centered mostly around Central Boulevard and Orange Avenue in downtown Orlando. Here you can walk and find many bars and several dance clubs from the chic urban Rhythm and Flow to the Mulvaney's Irish Pub. A short walk away is the tiny Thornton Park District, located near the intersection of Washington and Summerlin. Among the dozens of cafés and pubs, you might stop in for a drink and a quick bite at Dexter's on Washington. For local flair head across the street to Burton's Frosty Mug, or sample the hip urban environment at the trendy HUE at the corner of Washington and Central.

Although most of the downtown Central avenue crowd is comprised of the "twentysomething" generation, for a more 30's and over entertainment experience, one can enjoy live jazz on many nights in the lounge of the Westin Grand Bohemian Hotel located downtown on Orange Avenue. The jazz is excellent and the ambiance is quite comfortable, although drinks tend to be pretty pricey here.

Also, for a more professional crowd with a Latin twist, there is the Samba Room, located on Sand Lake Road, about 3/4 west of I-4. This is a lively restaurant and happy hour type of place. The look is chic and the locals and tourists alike gather here for a quality food, beverage and people watching experience. You should ditch the shorts and flip-flops for a more casual chic look, but if you do you will be rewarded with a nice experience here. If you are traveling west on Sand Lake Road, after passing I-4, The Samba Room is on the left in a large shopping plaza. Latin food, music and mojitos are just some of the specialties here.

Across the street from the Samba Room, on Sand Lake Road, is the Old Vines wine bar, featuring live jazz usually from Thurs. through Saturday nights. The wine selection is extensive and the live jazz is some of the best in town. The jazz is performed in the front of the room by the entrance. There is a divider that separates the more intimate rear portion of the establishment, which is the main dining area.

There are quite a few places to enjoy quality dining and drinks along Park Avenue in Winter Park, an adjacent suburb which is just northeast of Orlando. Winter Park is known for its many older grande homes that dominate the more historic sections of this suburb affectionately referred to by many as the center of Orlando's "old money." Park Avenue is an active pedestrian street featuring trendy shoppes, galleries, restaurants and nightspots. It has recently grown from becoming a one street attraction to more of a district, as several nearby streets have now added similar attractions.

Of particular interest and uniqueness on Park Avenue is the Wine Room, a converted bank featuring literally hundreds of wines available for self serve sampling. The mode of purchasing here is to pre-load a wine "credit card" supplied by the Wine Room. You are then at liberty to peruse the entire building and select any wine you wish to try, merely by inserting your "credit card." Each wine station automatically deducts the value of your current purchase and advises you of your card balance. Dress is very casual here and you are likely to meet both locals and visitors, all sampling and enjoying their vinos of choice throughout the night.

At the theme parks, there is Pleasure Island at Disney World and the CityWalk at Universal Studios. For a nominal admission fee, both sites offer numerous venues for libations and entertainment. If you're staying along International Drive, there are plenty of bars, pubs, and clubs.

• Orlando Bars & Night Club Reviews are available online [51].

Orlando cheap and luxurious hotels, youth hostels & lodging

With a hotel around virtually every corner (actually 4 or 5 around every corner) it seems impossible to throw a rock and not hit a hotel. There are hotels to meet every traveler's need, whether it be a hostel or a 5-star resort, although many visiting families often prefer to rent their own private villa as they usually provide much more personal space and have their own private facilities. There are also a large number of lodgings in the surrounding cities and towns.

See Also: Davenport, Kissimmee, Lake Buena Vista.

Budget

• VillasInOrlando.net, 842 Sussex Drive, Davenport 33896, +1 863 420-9122, [52]. We are a WIKI based community website for owners in Davenport, Orlando Florida - You can review and search around 200 2,3,4,5,6 & 7 Bed Villas and Vacation Rental Homes. Owners Advertise Free and the website is not for profit, you can be assured that the rental prices are excellent value.

• AmeriSuites Orlando Airport/Northeast, 7500 Augusta National Dr, +1 407-240-3939, [53]. Near Orlando International Airport and minutes from Walt Disney World, Universal Orlando, and SeaWorld.

• AmeriSuites Orlando Airport/Northwest, 5435 Forbes Pl, +1 407-816-7800, [54]. Near Orlando International Airport and minutes from Walt Disney World, Universal Orlando, and SeaWorld.

• AmeriSuites Orlando/Convention Center, 8741 International Dr, +1 407-370-4720, [55]. Three blocks from the Orange County Convention Center and three miles from Sea World and Universal.

• AmeriSuites Orlando/Universal, 5895 Caravan Ct, +1 407-351-0627, [56]. Located only 1/4-mile from Universal Studios and City Walk and minutes from Walt Disney World.

• Baymont Inn & Suites Orlando, 7531 Canada Ave, +1 407-226-9887, [57]. For the fourth consecutive year, Microtel Inns & Suites has been "Ranked Highest in Guest Satisfaction Among Economy/Budget Hotel Chains"*. (Previously Microtel.)

• Suburban Extended Stay South, 9435 Delegates Dr, +1 407-251-1110, [58]. Perfect for a long business trip or a family vacation, this hotel is located minutes away from Sea World and The Orange County Convention Center.

• Discount Orlando Vacations , 5889 West Irlo Bronson Memorial Hwy, +1 888-817-6797, [59]. Orlando Discount Tickets USA offers Discount Orlando Vacations to Disney World, Universal Studios, Sea World and all other Orlando area attractions and theme parks. The Holiday Seasons are upon us and the resorts that offer the Discount Vacations will and do sell out fast. So if you are planning to come to Orlando with your family for an orlando Vacation, don't wait till the last minute.

Mid-range

• Blue Heron Beach Resort Family friendly condo resort less than one mile from Disney. High rise towers with Disney fireworks view. Large Pool on private lake with watersports available. 1-888-BLUE 684.[60]

• Clarion Hotel Universal, 7299 Universal Blvd, ☎ +1 407 351-5009, [61]. Pet friendly hotel within only one mile of Universal Studios and many other attractions such as Wet 'n Wild and the Orange County Convention Center. edit

• Comfort Suites Universal Studios Area, 5617 Major Blvd, ☎ +1-800-475-1694, [62]. Less than one mile from Universal Studios, free ground transportation to theme parks available. edit

• Courtyard Orlando Downtown Hotel, 730 North Magnolia Ave, [63].  edit

• Courtyard Orlando Altamonte Springs/Maitland, 1750 Pembrook Dr.., +1 407-659-9100.

• Doubletree Castle Hotel, 8629 International Dr, [64]. Designed as a medieval themed palace. 216 guest rooms and suites. edit

• Doubletree Universal Orlando Hotel, 5780 Major Blvd, ☎ 407-351-1000, [65]. Near entrance to Universal Orlando. edit

• Embassy Suites Hotel, Lake Buena Vista Resort, 8100 Lake Ave, [66].  edit

• Embassy Suites North Orlando Hotel, 225 East Altamonte Dr, +1 407-834-2400, [67]. 19 miles from Orlando Airport and six miles from downtown Orlando, close to the business district, shopping and the many local attractions, free shuttle within a 5mi radius.

• Embassy Suites Orlando Hotel & Convention Center on International Drive, 8978 International Dr, +1 407-352-1400, [68]. 244 two-room suites, 10 miles from Orlando Airport MCO, and just minutes from Walt Disney World, Sea World and Universal Studios.

• Enclave Suites Resort, 6165 Carrier Dr, 1-800-457-0077, (Fax: +1 407-351-2001), [69]. 2 outdoor pools, two "kiddie pools", two whirlpools, tennis court, fitness center, &indoor heated pool and whirlpool. 2/2 suites w/ kitchens, sofa beds, and balcony.

• Four Points by Sheraton Orlando Studio City, 5905 International Dr, ☎ +1 407 351-2100, [70]. 301 guest rooms. edit

• Grande Lakes Orlando Resort, 4040 Central Florida Pkwy, [71]. Spa, golf, and restaurants on site. edit

• Hawthorn Suites Orlando (Universal Studios), 7601 Canada Ave, +1 407-581-2151, [72]. One block from International Drive, minutes from the Orange County Convention Center.

• Hawthorn Suites Orlando Airport, 7450 Augusta National Dr, +1 407-438-2121, [73]. Business travelers will enjoy in-room business services, featuring an oversized work area.

• Hawthorn Suites Orlando/Convention Center, 6435 Westwood Blvd, +1 407-351-6600, [74]. Heated pool and spa, as well as special children’s pool, play area and game room.

• Hawthorn Suites Orlando/Walt Disney World, 8303 Palm Pkwy, +1 (407) 597-5000, [75].

• Holiday Inn Nikki Bird Orlando Hotel, 7300 West US 192, +1 407-396-7300, [76]. One mile from Disney's Main Gate and 15 miles from Orlando. Magic Kingdom Park, Epcot and Walt Disney World are all within one mile.

• Holiday Inn International Drive Orlando Hotel, 6515 International Dr, +1 407-351-3500, [77].

• Holiday Inn Select Orlando Hotel at the Orlando Airport MCO, 5750 TG Lee Blvd, +1 407-851-6400, [78]. Just outside the exit of Orlando Airport and 8 miles from downtown.

• Hyatt Regency Orlando International Airport, 9300 Airport Boulevard., The only Orlando Florida airport hotel with a Four Diamond status. The hotel can arrange for your luggage to be delivered from baggage claim to your room. Business facilities available in the hotel to ensure a productive gathering, with the ease of arrival. Prime location within the terminal is ideal for both travel plans and exploring area attractions. Play golf, visit theme parks, shop – all arranged through their Concierge Service.

• Lake Buena Vista Resort & Spa, 8112 Poinciana Blvd, +1 407-239-7100 (Toll Free: 1-866-401-2699), [79]. New condominium resort. Minutes away from Disney, Universal, SeaWorld and International Drive.

• ''''Marriott's Cypress Harbour Resort', 11251 Harbour Villa Rd, +1 407-238-1300 ("Toll Free: 1-800-845-5279"),[80]. Spacious two-bedroom villas with kitchens and more.

• 'Marriott's Grande Vista Resort' , 5925 Avenida Vista, +1 407-238-7676 ("Toll Free: 1-800-845-5279"),[81]. One, two and three-bedroom villas with kitchens and more.

• Marriott Residence Inn Lake Buena Vista , 11450 Marbella Palm Ct, +1 407-465-0075 (Fax: +1 407-465-0050), [82]. Features include: location near Walt Disney World, and accommodations for extended stay business visitors, or events at the nearby Orange County Convention Center.

• Masters Inn Orlando, 1-800-633-3434, [83]. Near Disney, MGM Studios, Animal Kingdom, Universal Studios, Islands of Adventures, and Epcot.

• Masters Inn International Dr., 8222 Jamaican Ct, +1 407-345-1172 (Fax: +1 407-352-2801), [84]. Near Universal Studios, SeaWorld & the Orlando-Orange County Convention Center.

• Nickelodeon Family Suites by Holiday Inn, 14500 Continental Gateway, [85]. In addition to the Nickelodeon colors and themes, two amazing pool complexes with water park features like slides, flumes and wet/dry play areas. Offers live Nickelodeon entertainment pool side.

• Orlando Marriott Downtown, 400 West Livingston Street, [86].

• Orlando Vista Hotel, 12490 Apopka Vineland Rd, [87].  edit

• Parc Corniche Condominium Orlando Suite Hotel, 6300 Parc Corniche Dr, +1 407-239-7100 (Toll Free: 1-800-446-2721, Fax: +1 407-239-8501), [88]. Located on International Drive and minutes away from Universal & Sea World.

• Quality Suites Universal, 7400 Canada Avenue, Orlando 32189, ☎ +1-407-363-0332(fax: +1-407-352-2598), [89]. checkin: 3PM; checkout: 11AM. $100.  edit

• Ramada Plaza Orlando, 3155 South John Young Pkwy, +1 407-841-6450, [90].

• Ramada Orlando Airport, 1853 McCoy Rd, +1 407-851-1113, [91].

• Ramada Convention Center I-Drive Orlando, 8342 Jamaican Ct, +1 407-363-1944, [92].

• Ramada Orlando International Drive Lakefront, 6500 International Dr, +1 407-345-5340, [93].

• The Howard Johnson Plaza Hotel and Suites, 9956 Hawaiian Ct, South International Dr, 1-800-826-4847, [94]. A "AAA 3-Diamond" award winner, 223 rooms, high-speed Internet access, adjacent to Orlando’s Orange County Convention Center.

• Westgate Blue Tree Resort, 12007 Cypress Run Rd, [95]. One and two bedroom villas with kitchens Lake Buena Vista; 4 pools, mini golf, basketball, tennis; close to SeaWorld, Universal Orlando and Walt Disney World®.

• Westgate Lakes Resort and Spa, 10000 Turkey Lake Rd, [96]. Studio, 2, 3 and 4 bedroom villas w/full kitchens, washers/dryers; spa, gym, restaurant, 7 pools and hot tubs, tennis, basketball, playgrounds, mini golf; Pet friendly; 3 miles from SeaWorld Orlando.

• Westgate Leisure Resort, 6950 Villa de Costa Drive, [97]. Two bedroom villas w/ kitchens & washer/dryers; pools, fitness center; 1 mile from SeaWorld Orlando.

• Westgate Palace, 6145 Carrier Dr, [98]. Two bedroom suites w/kitchens & washer/dryers; within walking distance International Drive; pool, basketball, 1mi from Universal Orlando Resort.

• World Quest Resort, 8849 WorldQuest Blvd, ☎ 1-877-987-8378, [99].  edit

Splurge

In addition to the dozens of hotels on the Disney property, there are a few other standouts in the area:

• Ritz Carlton & JW Marriott Grande Lakes, 4040 Central Florida Parkway Orlando, FL 32837, [100]. Two luxury hotels sharing a golf course, decadent spa, creative lazy river pool, and two restaurants. Close to the Orange County Convention Center, Universal, and Sea World.

• Grand Bohemian Hotel, 325 S. Orange Ave, [101]. 250 guest rooms & suites

• Hyatt Regency Grand Cypress Orlando Hotel, One Grand Cypress Blvd, [102]. Located adjacent to Walt Disney World, provides golf, tennis, pools, horseback riding, dining, & meeting facilities.

• The Peabody Orlando Hotel, 9801 International Drive, [103]. Luxury Orlando hotel, contemporary elegance, home to the famous Peabody Ducks and located across the street from the Orange County Convention Center.

• Ginn Reunion Resort, 1000 Reunion Way, Reunion, Florida 34747 [104]. Luxurious accommodations located 15 minutes from DisneyWorld and 25 minutes from Orlando Airport. Condos, villas, and private homes available.

• International Plaza Orlando Resort and Spa, 10100 International Dr, [105]. Orlando resort located just minutes from Sea World and Orlando Convention Center.

• Venturella Resort & Spa, 8688 Palm Parkway, [106]. This hotel features a Mediterranean/Tuscan theme and is scheduled to open during the winter of 2008 - 2009. It is located in the center of activity and occupies one of the best locations in the greater Orlando market. Situated near the entrance to Walt Disney World®, the 155-room hotel will have two restaurants, a lounge and a spa, as well as more than 7,000 square feet of meeting space.

Contact

• Ten digit dialing is in effect in the Orlando area. All calls from or within the area, even local calls, require dialing the area code. There are some public pay phones scattered around the city, but they are becoming increasingly rare with the predominance of cell phones. It is not safe to assume you will be able to find a pay phone at any given time.

• Orlando/Orange County Convention & Visitors Bureau, 8723 International Dr, 1-800 972-3304, [107]. The official sales and marketing organization for the Orlando and Orange County area.

• ZIP codes in the city of Orlando begin with 328, and 327 in the surrounding areas.

• It is common for many of the larger hotels and lodgings in the area to offer free internet access for their guests.

Stay safe

Orlando is roughly the same as many other large cities, in that there are certain areas of the city which are considerably less safe. Such as:

• Parramore District, downtown Orlando west of I-4.
• Orange Blossom Trail, north of Sand Lake Road, mostly around dusk and into the evening.
• Pine Hills, located around Silver Star Road and Pine Hills Road west of John Young Parkway. This area is notorious for high crime.

Fortunately those areas are away from tourist destinations and easy to avoid.

Orlando is renowned as a tourist destination, with annual tourists (52 million) far outnumbering the regional population (~2million). Many persons are aware of this and keen to turn tourists into victims. Fortunately, following common sense travel precautions goes a long way to prevent crime. In fact most crime commited on tourists are for common, easily-preventable mistakes...

• Hotel room invasions do occur, especially open-air hotel and motel rooms when the victim leaves their hotel room unlocked and not dead-bolted. When you are in a hotel room, always lock your doors behind you, even if you expect someone in a minute or two.
• Never leave valuable items in your car unattended, get any purchased items to your hotel room as soon as possible.
• Never leave small children unattended for any length of time, especially at a pool. Most hotel pools do not have lifeguards.

Due to the unique proximity to two coasts, thunderstorms form everyday from mid-June through September. While somedays it may rain for 10 minutes, others thunderstorms will last for a couple of hours. These make central Florida the lightning capital of the western hemisphere. During these storms it is best to remain indoors due to the danger posed by frequent cloud-to-ground lightning, especially on golf courses. A couple of dozen people are killed each year by lightning in Florida and many more spend much time receiving treatment for lightning strikes.

Pets are better off left with a friend or in a kennel. If you choose to bring your pet, note that most theme parks and hotels prohibit pets but may provide kennels for a fee. Also note above about interior temperatures in parked cars.

Get out

Within an hour of downtown Orlando:

• Altamonte Springs
• Celebration
• Kissimmee
• Sanford
• Clermont. About 20 miles west of Orlando on Florida Highway 50, hosts another Central Florida landmark, the Florida Citrus Tower. The tower celebrated its 50th anniversary in December of 2006.
• Winter Haven About 30 miles south of Disney off US27. Home of the "Chain of Lakes" network of 16 canal-connected lakes, great for fishing. Also home to Cypress Gardens Adventure Park. [108]

A bit further, but good daytrips or next destinations include:

• Cocoa Beach World-famous beach for surfing, but very crowded on summer weekends and holidays like Memorial Day, 4th of July, & Labor Day.
• Cape Canaveral Home to the Kennedy Space Center and location of space shuttle and rocket launches year round (these are visible throughout central Florida, but are more spectacular in Titusville and a trip is recommended for children and first time viewers). Launch schedule: [109]
• Daytona Beach Home of NASCAR and a popular beach.
• Canaveral National Seashore 24 miles of undeveloped shore; central Florida's only nude(in one spot) beach; 1000+ year old Indian relics; 58,000 acres for hiking, horseback riding, and biking; but no camping or concessions.
• Melbourne (Florida)/Melbourne Beach Historic downtown and a great but "less touristy" beach than most on the Space Coast, beachfront camping nearby.
• Ocala National Forest Great hiking and camping. Home to many fauna, including black bears and the Florida panther.
• New Smyrna Beach Great beach, but most prone in Florida to shark attacks

This page was last edited at 20:52, on 13 November 2008 by Anonymous user(s) of Wikitravel. Based on work by Wikitravel user(s) Edmontonenthusiast, AHeneen, Biggie54 and PerryPlanet, Anonymous user(s) of Wikitravel and others.

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